Welches System

Ich möchte meinen rechner neuinstallieren hab z.Zeit WInXP mit FAT32 drauf. Ist NTFS besser ?

 

Aus dem WinXP Professional ResourceKit

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NTFS
Recommended minimum volume size is approximately 10 MB. Recommended practical maximum for volumes is 2 terabytes. Much larger sizes are possible. Cannot be used on floppy disks. Maximum file size 16 terabytes minus 64 KB (2^44 minus 64 KB). Files per volume: 4,294,967,295 (2^32 minus 1 files)

FAT32
Volumes from 512 MB to 2 terabytes. In Windows XP Professional, you can format a FAT32 volume only up to 32 GB. Cannot be used on floppy disks. Maximum file size 4 GB. Files per volume: Approximately 4,177,920
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Advantages of Using NTFSNTFS provides performance, reliability, and advanced features not found in any version of FAT. Use NTFS wherever possible to gain the maximum benefits from Windows XP Professional, including the following:

Robust, reliable performance
NTFS guarantees the consistency of the volume by using standard transaction logging and recovery techniques. In the event of a system failure, NTFS uses its log file and checkpoint information to restore the consistency of the file system when the computer is restarted.
In the event of a bad-sector error, NTFS dynamically remaps the cluster containing the bad sector and allocates a new cluster for the data. NTFS also marks the cluster as bad and no longer uses it.
Built-in security features
When you set permissions on a file or folder, you specify the groups and users whose access you want to restrict or allow, and then select the type of access. For example, you can let one group read the contents of a file, let another group make changes to the file, and prevent all other groups from accessing the file.
The Encrypting File System (EFS) is the technology used to store encrypted files on NTFS volumes. After you encrypt a file or folder, you work with the encrypted file or folder just as you do with any other files and folders. However, an intruder who tries to access your encrypted files or folders is prevented from doing so, even if the intruder has physical access to the computer.
Supports large volumes
Using the default cluster size (4 KB) for large volumes, you can create an NTFS volume up to 16 terabytes. You can create NTFS volumes up to 256 terabytes using the maximum cluster size of 64 KB. NTFS also supports larger files and more files per volume than FAT.
NTFS manages disk space more efficiently than FAT by using smaller cluster sizes. For example, a 30-GB NTFS volume uses 4-KB clusters. The same volume formatted by using FAT32 uses 16-KB clusters. Using smaller clusters reduces wasted space on hard disks.
Designed for storage growth
By enabling disk quotas, you can track and control disk space usage for NTFS volumes. You can configure whether users are allowed to exceed their limit, and you can also configure Windows XP Professional to log an event when a user exceeds a specified warning level or quota limit.
To create extra disk space, you can compress files on NTFS volumes. Compressed files can be read and written by any Windows-based application without first being decompressed by another program.
If you run out of drive letters or need to create additional space that is accessible from an existing folder, you can mount a volume at any empty folder on a local NTFS volume to create a mounted drive. Mounted drives make data more accessible and give you the flexibility to manage data storage based on your work environment and system usage.
You can increase the size of most NTFS volumes by adding unallocated space from the same disk or from another disk. For more information about increasing the size of NTFS volumes, see "Disk Management" in this book.
Other advanced features found only on NTFS volumes
Distributed link tracking maintains the integrity of shortcuts and OLE links. You can rename source files, move them to NTFS volumes on different computers within a Windows 2000 domain, change the computer name or folder name that stores the target ? all without breaking the shortcut or OLE links.
Sparse files consist of large, consecutive areas of zeroes. NTFS manages sparse files by tracking the starting and ending point of the sparse file, as well as its useful (non-zero) data. The unused space in a sparse file is made available as free space.
The NTFS change journal provides a persistent log of changes made to files on a volume. NTFS maintains the change journal by tracking information about added, deleted, and modified files for each volume. Programs such as Indexing Service can take advantage of the change journal to boost search performance.
Hard links are NTFS-based links to a file on an NTFS volume. By creating hard links, you can have a single file in multiple folders without duplicating the file. You can also create multiple hard links for a file in a folder if you use different file names for the hard links. Because all of the hard links reference the same file, applications can open any of the hard links and modify the file.
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NTFS Change JournalThe change journal provides a persistent log of changes made to files on a volume. NTFS uses the change journal to track information about added, deleted, and modified files for each volume. The change journal describes the nature of any changes to files on the volume. When any file or folder is created, modified, or deleted, NTFS adds a record to the change journal for that volume.

The total size of all the records currently in the journal varies, but there is a configurable maximum size. The change journal can exceed the maximum size until the size reaches an outer threshold, at which point a portion of the oldest records are deleted until the change journal is restored to its maximum size. The maximum size of the change journal is configurable but cannot be reduced, only increased.

The change journal conveys significant scalability benefits to applications that might otherwise need to scan an entire volume for changes. File system indexing, replication managers, virus scanners, and incremental backup applications can benefit from using the change journal.

The change journal is much more efficient than time stamps or file notifications for determining changes in a particular namespace. Applications that must rescan an entire volume to determine changes can now scan once and subsequently refer to the change journal. The I/O cost depends on how many files have changed, not on how many files exist on the volume.

The APIs are fully documented and can be leveraged by independent software vendors (ISVs). Microsoft uses the change journal in Windows XP Professional components such as the Indexing Service and File Replication Service. ISVs can use this feature to enhance the scalability and robustness of a range of products including backup, antivirus, and auditing tools.

For more information about the change journal, see the Platform Software Development Kit (SDK) link on the Web Resources page at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/reskits/webresources.

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EncryptionThe Encrypting File System (EFS) uses symmetric key encryption in conjunction with public key technology to protect files and folders. Encryption ensures that only the authorized users and designated recovery agents of that file or folder can access it. Users of EFS are issued a digital certificate with a public key and a private key pair. EFS uses the key set for the user who is logged on to the local computer where the private key is stored.

Users work with encrypted files and folders just as they do with any other files and folders. Encryption is transparent to any authorized users; the system decrypts the file or folder when the user opens it. When the file is saved, encryption is reapplied. However, intruders who try to access the encrypted files or folders receive an "Access denied" message if they try to open, copy, move, or rename the encrypted file or folder.

To encrypt or decrypt a folder or file, set the encryption attribute for NTFS folders and files just as you set attributes such as read-only or compressed. If you encrypt a folder, all files and subfolders created in the encrypted folder are automatically encrypted.

Important

It is recommended that you encrypt at the folder level to ensure that new files are automatically encrypted and that temporary files created during the editing process remain encrypted.
EFS is not available in Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition. For more information about EFS, see "Encrypting File System" in this book.

You can also encrypt or decrypt a file or folder by using the command-line tool Cipher. For more information about Cipher, see Windows XP Professional Help.
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J2x

PS: Maximale Nachrichtenlänge ist 16000 :-(

 

>Außerdem soll FAT32 etwas schneller sein als NTFS

JAIN. Bei einer Kleinen Platte mit wenigen großen Dateien ist der Zugriff auf diese mit Fat32 marginal schneller. Bei einer Großen Platte mit zigtausend kleinen Dateien ist FAT32 ziehmlich langsam im Vergleich zu NTFS.

J2x

 

Hallo,
der Vergleich hinkt natürlich, wie alle Vergleiche. Wenn ich viele Lasten Transportieren muss, nutzt mir der porsche auch nichts.
Es gibt meiner Meinung nach viele gründe für und ebensoviele gegen NTFS. Ambesten ist, auflisten, was man machen will, welche Werkzeuge man schon hat, welche man ggf. neu zu kaufen (zu updaten) bereit ist. Ausschlaggebender Punkt ist meiner Meinung nach das Sicherheitsbedürfnis. Muss ich mich gegen "Mitbnutzer" schützen habe ich keine Wahl. Aber ansonsten tuns eben meine schon früher gekauften Tools für FAT32 auch. Meine Systempartition habe ich mit DriveImage 3 (habe ich kostenlos von einer Zeitschrift) auch in ca. 10 Minuten wieder hergestellt.

Muss halt jeder für sich entscheiden.

Ciao
Uwe

 

Hi, also ich hab z.B ne 3,8 er systempartition für xp in ntfs, dann logische partitionen für linux+swap, ne datenpartition in ntfs, noch ne zweite datenpartition in ntfs, und ne riesenpartition für meine mp3s in fat 32. Denn Linux kann fat 32 partitionen mounten, und somit hab ich die möglichkeit über diese partition zwischen xp und linux (momentan Mandrake 8.2 downloadedi) die daten hin und herschieben, wie ichs brauch.
Ansonsten würd ich immer ntfs empfehlen. Das wär ja wie wenn man ne porsche hätte und würd den mit nem vw motor fahren, obwohl der porsche motor mit im paket war.

Die zwei startdisketten von drive image 5 funzen wunderbar. Mein Xp ist z.B in 7 Minuten wieder aufgepflanzt.
Shine on

 

Hallo,
Du solltest vielleicht auch bedenken, das zahlreiche, sehr nützliche Tools, z.B. Ghost, DriveImage u.d.m. nur in ihren letzten Versionen (wenn überhaupt) mit NTFS5 zusammen arbeiten. Die mit manchen Zeitschriften erhältlichen kostenlosen Versionen können das nicht.
Du kannst dann z.B. keine Image-Dateien eines gut laufenden Systemes erstellen.
Außerdem soll FAT32 etwas schneller sein als NTFS.
Letztlich ist es wie so oft in der "Computerei" eine Gewissensfrage, wenn nicht gerade besondere Sicherheitsanforderungen bestehen.

Ciao
Uwe

 

Nochmal zu kada.Ein solches Tool ist NTFSDOS.In der Freeware-Version kann man damit lesend auf NTFS-Laufwerke zugreifen (womit sich eine Menge anstellen läßt).Die Profi-Version, die auch den Schreibzugriff beinhaltet, kostet dann aber schlappe 299$.Damit kann man dann aber z.B. auch mit f-prot-Virenscanner eine NTFS-Partion scannen und Viren löschen.Das funktioniert auch.

franzkat

 

Vorteile von NTFS:

- Datenkomprimierung
- Journalfunktion
- Performance auf Großen Partitionen besser >= 30GB
- Zugriffsrechte
- Verschlüsselung

Vorteile von FAT32

- Kann von Win9x/ME gelesen werden
- ehm

J2x

 

Ein Nachteil liegt darin, dass Du nicht mehr so einfach mit einer DOS-Startdiskette auf das Laufwerk zugreifen kannst.Unter bestimmten Umständen (z.B. wenn Du Deine CD nicht findest ) könnte das ein Problem sein.

franzkat

 

ja schon, aber wenn das XP hinüber ist, kommste net an die Daten ran... du musst dann XP wo anders installieren (andere Platte) und darüber zugreifen. Es gibt zwar irgendwelche Tools, die Zugriff auf NTFS erlauben sollen... aber ich traue dem nicht so ganz. Meist sind da einige Einschränkungen dabei. Wenn du von DOS, Win9x etc. auf die Partition zugreifen willst... tja, Pech gehabt (außer Linux vielleicht )

 

High,

ob}s stabiler läuft kann ich nicht beurteilen
Aber mit NTFS auf jeden Fall sicherer, da du mit diesem Dateisys
eine Freigabe einschränken kannst, was unter Fat32 nicht der Fall
ist. Bei NTFS wird eine interne Verschlüsselung mit eingebunden.

Gruß Juve ----->

 

nach meinen informationen soll es stabiler laufen mit ntfs.